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although a lot of the money is being spent against kay hagan by outside groups. and we can talk about that more if you like. but tillis has not just the money, but because he's speaker of the house, he has the leadership, the governor's endorsed him. the other senator richard burr has endorsed him. so that -- in a kind of low energy primary that seems to be so far, that helps a lot. >> chuck, if t seems like for the longest time kay hagan wasn't running against a republican. she was running against americans for prosperity. this big conservative group that's running all these ads against her. it will be refreshing to have a real candidate to focus on. is it clear that there is going to have to be a runoff, does tillis have it locked up or do you think he's going to have to go another round? what's the rule that he has to get 40%? >> 40%. a little less than the 50% threshold. the thinking earlier was that it probably would be a runoff and now can tillis avoid a runoff? if there is a runoff would be july 15. a good ways away. that could be a problem for tillis. bec
although a lot of the money is being spent against kay hagan by outside groups. and we can talk about that more if you like. but tillis has not just the money, but because he's speaker of the house, he has the leadership, the governor's endorsed him. the other senator richard burr has endorsed him. so that -- in a kind of low energy primary that seems to be so far, that helps a lot. >> chuck, if t seems like for the longest time kay hagan wasn't running against a republican. she was...
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what is kay hagan's fireable offense? >> i think really a record that started when she was in the state senate. much watch i've been doing is cleaning up kay hagan's mess in north carolina when she was sitting in the state senate. i think it's a contrast between her adding taxes, adding regulations while we're cutting taxes and reducing regulations. so a very clear contrast for voters in november. >> i want to ask you a question and get you to respond to comments you made caught on tape. let me play the comments and get you to explain them for me in a little more detail. >> what we have to do is find a way to divide and conquer the people who are on assistance. we have to show respect for the woman who has cerebral policy and has no choice in her condition and that needs help and we should help and we need to get those folks to look down at these people who choose to get into a condition that makes them dependent on the government and say at some point you're on your own. >> divide and conquer, explain what you mean by th
what is kay hagan's fireable offense? >> i think really a record that started when she was in the state senate. much watch i've been doing is cleaning up kay hagan's mess in north carolina when she was sitting in the state senate. i think it's a contrast between her adding taxes, adding regulations while we're cutting taxes and reducing regulations. so a very clear contrast for voters in november. >> i want to ask you a question and get you to respond to comments you made caught on...
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and if he's up against kay hagan in november, there's a very good chance that he will lose statewide. if republicans can't beat kay hagan in north carolina in 2014, the odds of them winning the senate would be cut dramatically. and that would be in large part thanks to rupert murdoch's new friend, rand paul. joining us now is nbc news political correspondent kasie hunt. it's only one poll. there's all sorts of caveats you can put what we're seeing in these numbers today, but last week this poll had thom tillis at 46%, today 40%. rand paul is in town, he's supporting greg brannon. is rand paul on the vernal of -- verge of mucking this thing up for the republicans? >> he certainly can be contributing to it but there is a factor we haven't discussed yet which is democratic rubes have been on the air waves just slamming thom tillis for being associated with staffers who had affairs with lobbyists and who resigned. >> so they didn't get the memo from hagan, hey, we want to do that after? >> well, they're look forward. the reality is democrats are looking for this to go to a runoff because
and if he's up against kay hagan in november, there's a very good chance that he will lose statewide. if republicans can't beat kay hagan in north carolina in 2014, the odds of them winning the senate would be cut dramatically. and that would be in large part thanks to rupert murdoch's new friend, rand paul. joining us now is nbc news political correspondent kasie hunt. it's only one poll. there's all sorts of caveats you can put what we're seeing in these numbers today, but last week this poll...
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but senator kay hagan's primary is not what she has to worry about. instead, political analysts say her future is tied to what happens on the republican primary side tonight, and she knows it. she even spent money to defeat one particular republican who was vying to run against her, and it appears to be a very good night for that republican tonight. chris is our fox news digital ed por. there were all these republicans trying to get the nod so they could run against kay hagan. the one she didn't want, tell us who he is and tell us what we know about him and the results tonight. >> well, what we know so far is tom tillis, he's the speaker of the house, he's from down in the charlotte metropolitan area, and he is well ahead of where the rest of the republicans would like to see him at this point as the vote comes in, and he's certainly well ahead of where kay hagan would like to see him because the name of the game for democrats is to see if they could force republicans into a runoff election that would take them into july. it would be expensive. it wou
but senator kay hagan's primary is not what she has to worry about. instead, political analysts say her future is tied to what happens on the republican primary side tonight, and she knows it. she even spent money to defeat one particular republican who was vying to run against her, and it appears to be a very good night for that republican tonight. chris is our fox news digital ed por. there were all these republicans trying to get the nod so they could run against kay hagan. the one she...
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hagan, and any doubt about it that it is tilllis? >> well, the washington establishment is behind tillis and he has two times more money than the other republican candidates, but like the senator said, kay hagan is already playing in the race, and democratic groups out of washington on her behalf have aired $3.5 million attack ads on thom tilli circumstancs and shet to hit him on issues from his cam feign days, and this is going to be heading to a lot more spending toward november. >> and what is in this for rand paul, because it seems to be tough to be a winning situation for him? >> well, it is. but he is an audacious guy, and take taking a risk to put his name on the line, and coming in the day before the primary, but look, if greg brannon can squeak through here sh, and keep tillis under , that is a feather in rand paul's cap in saying, hey, i pulled this guy over the line, but here he is again going up against the establishment forces, jeb bush, mitt romney, haley barbour, and all of the big gop honchos on one side, and rand pau
hagan, and any doubt about it that it is tilllis? >> well, the washington establishment is behind tillis and he has two times more money than the other republican candidates, but like the senator said, kay hagan is already playing in the race, and democratic groups out of washington on her behalf have aired $3.5 million attack ads on thom tilli circumstancs and shet to hit him on issues from his cam feign days, and this is going to be heading to a lot more spending toward november....
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tillis will no go up against the incumbent, kay hagan, in a race that could make or break a republican takeover in the u.s. senate. if you are a rand paul backer or staffer or friend or close associate, you are, today, wiping the sweat from your brow, because you dodged a bullet with that disastrous greg brannon performance. why? because if greg brannon had made it to a runoff or won the republican primary, then the full national spotlight would have focused on the man who rand paul saw fit not only to endorse, but also to campaign for right up until election day. >> it isn't always about just attacking the other side, but it is about thinking the problems through. and i think as a physician, greg will do that. but i'm proud to be part of this effort, as much as i can. >> what america craves is a dragon slayer, and that dragon slayer is dr. greg brannon. i'm here today, because greg brannon is a believer. and we need true believers in congress. >> the neat thing about north carolina is greg brannon is a doctor like myself. he's a problem solver. and i think greg brannon would be a grea
tillis will no go up against the incumbent, kay hagan, in a race that could make or break a republican takeover in the u.s. senate. if you are a rand paul backer or staffer or friend or close associate, you are, today, wiping the sweat from your brow, because you dodged a bullet with that disastrous greg brannon performance. why? because if greg brannon had made it to a runoff or won the republican primary, then the full national spotlight would have focused on the man who rand paul saw fit not...
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it's all in the hopes from the left that democrats could maybe pick their own opponent against kay hagan or prolong republican in-fighting. polls in north carolina close tonight at 7:30 p.m. local time. at this point with just over a third of all precincts reporting it appears the establishment candidate has 45.1% of the vote. that would put the tillis 17 points ahead of the tea party candidate favorite greg brannon. 17? never do math on television. mark harris is ten points be hind mr. brannon. they have a way to go counting votes bus the early returns at least don't look that close. mr. tillis wants 40% of the vote plus one so he could avoid a run-off. needs the early returns to hold up as the votes come in if he is to avoid a run-off and go to the general election campaign. we'll keep you posted as the numbers come the in. joining us is a political reporter from the charlotte observer covering north carolina politics for more than three decades. thanks for joining us. >> nice to be here. >> the results may take a long time to come in and you can't tell what you should extrapolate but
it's all in the hopes from the left that democrats could maybe pick their own opponent against kay hagan or prolong republican in-fighting. polls in north carolina close tonight at 7:30 p.m. local time. at this point with just over a third of all precincts reporting it appears the establishment candidate has 45.1% of the vote. that would put the tillis 17 points ahead of the tea party candidate favorite greg brannon. 17? never do math on television. mark harris is ten points be hind mr....
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republicans needed a candidate to run against democratic senator kay hagan. the establishment had its choice, thom tillis is his name. he's the speaker of the state house of representatives. mitt romney endorsed him. the u.s. chamber of commerce spent heavily on his behalf. when it comes to endorsements, he's about as establishment as it gets. meanwhile his main opponent was backed by rand paul, who is the biggest tea party star in america. he came to campaign for that candidate on the eve of the primary. freedom works also endorsed brannon. they talked up the grass roots nrge. for the past few years, this has been the setup for one tea party triumph after another, for one humiliating blow to the establishment after another. but not this week. thom tillis won easily on tuesday. north carolina will probably be the most closely watched senate race in america this fall. it's a pivotal state for republicans o to pick off if they're going to win back the senate. now the establishment has the candidate it wants. this time it stopped the tea party grass roots from n
republicans needed a candidate to run against democratic senator kay hagan. the establishment had its choice, thom tillis is his name. he's the speaker of the state house of representatives. mitt romney endorsed him. the u.s. chamber of commerce spent heavily on his behalf. when it comes to endorsements, he's about as establishment as it gets. meanwhile his main opponent was backed by rand paul, who is the biggest tea party star in america. he came to campaign for that candidate on the eve of...
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. >> it's not the end of the primary, but the beginning of the primary mission, that's to beat kay hagan and make harry reid irrelevant. >> before tillis gets there, he has to defeat current north carolina senator kay hagan who'sly won her primary last night with 77% of the vote. with the gop sails at their backs, the dems majority in jeopardy, with the defeat of the tea party last night, who you think was in a better mood when they woke up this morning? republicans or democrats. always in a good mood is friend of the show, political columnist dana milbank. dana, answer the question. who was in a better mood? >> or jonathan capehart. >> jonathan capehart has all reasons to be in a good mood. i think it's sort of a mixed bag. the good news here is, as you point out, the republican establishment has found a way to beat back the tea party. the bad news for them is the way they've beaten back the tea party is basically by becoming the tea party. so, yes, they found a way to repel the insure general seerks but have done this by going far to the right. this guy tillis, he's hardly some return
. >> it's not the end of the primary, but the beginning of the primary mission, that's to beat kay hagan and make harry reid irrelevant. >> before tillis gets there, he has to defeat current north carolina senator kay hagan who'sly won her primary last night with 77% of the vote. with the gop sails at their backs, the dems majority in jeopardy, with the defeat of the tea party last night, who you think was in a better mood when they woke up this morning? republicans or democrats....
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if they all vote, good lord, you know, that's all kay hagan would need to win, but there's something even worse and more insidious about it. if you listen to what tillis said on the tape, not only the divide and conquer strategy, but the absolutely outrageous assumption that he made that there are people who choose to be poor so that they can get food stamps and welfare. that people actually make a decision to be in that condition. they say to themselves, well, i don't want to get a job that pays good money. i'd rather get a little pittance on welfare and food stamps. that's a ridiculous statement to make about any human beings. people want to work. they want the dignity of work, they want to earn decent money to take care of their family. no one says, aha, i'm going to be poor so i can get food stamps and be on welfare. it's an idiotic suggestion. >> very idiotic, but let me pick up on that, jess, because we heard tillis on the tape talking about divide and conquer, as you pointed out, but it seems like this has seeped into the this kind of rhetoric is seeped into the ground water.
if they all vote, good lord, you know, that's all kay hagan would need to win, but there's something even worse and more insidious about it. if you listen to what tillis said on the tape, not only the divide and conquer strategy, but the absolutely outrageous assumption that he made that there are people who choose to be poor so that they can get food stamps and welfare. that people actually make a decision to be in that condition. they say to themselves, well, i don't want to get a job that...
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kay hagan is quite damaged in this state. she has a very low approval rating. obamacare is wildly unpopular. she's not a perfect candidate even for herself. she's also running in a year that is very difficult. she won when barack obama won north carolina in 2008. and that lifted her very, very strongly. even if she did the exact same percentages with the exact same people, kay hagan would lose in november just because we know that republicans will have higher turnout in a midterm election than democrats will. so she really needs to do something. i talked to a lot of democrats in the state. they said what she needs to do is take that anger toward the house speaker and translate to votes in november. and, you know, again, they have this very, very conservative record, but you look at the north carolina republican primary electorate. 58% do not believe in evolution. 52% of republican likely primary voters tomorrow do not believe barack obama was born in america. so this is -- you know, thom tillis really has a very long way to stretch himself to be far right enoug
kay hagan is quite damaged in this state. she has a very low approval rating. obamacare is wildly unpopular. she's not a perfect candidate even for herself. she's also running in a year that is very difficult. she won when barack obama won north carolina in 2008. and that lifted her very, very strongly. even if she did the exact same percentages with the exact same people, kay hagan would lose in november just because we know that republicans will have higher turnout in a midterm election than...
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what do kay hagan and other fresh faces in the southern states need to do now to win in november. msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com. welcome to you both. looking to you and following up on what michael steele was saying, tom tillis is really the strongest candidate among the three, in terms of a general election candidate. for kay hagan now, she's got a tough opponent. >> this is in some ways a reversal of what we saw in 2010 and 2012. republican voters often picking the candidate that might be most aligned with their beliefs, the most conservative candidate, but certainly not the most electable candidate in the field. tillis was not the most electable candidate. but he was the speaker of the state house, raised the most money. i think it's important to remember, he not only got the most votes, the highest percentage, but he got more than 40%, which means he doesn't have to go into a runoff with a person running to his right in july. that runoff would have been. that's several more months of spending money, time, and everything else. now all of that focus
what do kay hagan and other fresh faces in the southern states need to do now to win in november. msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com. welcome to you both. looking to you and following up on what michael steele was saying, tom tillis is really the strongest candidate among the three, in terms of a general election candidate. for kay hagan now, she's got a tough opponent. >> this is in some ways a reversal of what we saw in 2010 and 2012. republican voters often...
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kay hagan is under water. >> she's not. she's leading, the candidate just nominated -- >> last week she was losing by three or four points against an unknown candidate. >> but now that you have -- you're not running against the all mighty, you're running against the alternative. >> if you like your plan, you can keep it and if you like your doctor, you can -- >> there are things she's trying to do. >> she was saying back in 2009. >> there is things you well know republican candidates are running away from. >> not one republican voted for i it, not one. >> they say yeah, we'll keep preexisting conditions and keep the -- >> they said that before. >> they have no -- >> but ari, this is a good point. let me concede one point to penny. it's four years now since this law was passed and republicans haven't built a consensus about their opposition plan. that's tactically not smart. >> well, no, that's not right. consumer based health care -- >> not consensus, seven or eight different plans -- >> have they put it up for a vote -- >>
kay hagan is under water. >> she's not. she's leading, the candidate just nominated -- >> last week she was losing by three or four points against an unknown candidate. >> but now that you have -- you're not running against the all mighty, you're running against the alternative. >> if you like your plan, you can keep it and if you like your doctor, you can -- >> there are things she's trying to do. >> she was saying back in 2009. >> there is things you...
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>> harry reid and kay hagan have spent $6 million to prevent me from winning outright. that didn't work. it's as much of a failure as their failed policies. what they don't want to talk about is what i've done which is create 200,000 jobs, have a drop in unemployment unlike any other state in the nation and a rollback of regulations that are putting people back to work. that's what this campaign is going to be about this november. it's not a good place for kay hagan to be running. >> you know, speaker, a lot of people have made much of the fact that the u.s. chamber of commerce was supporting you. former presidential candidate mitt romney, that you were not like a tea party guy. you were sort of a mainstream guy. are you? >> well, you know, neil, eight years ago i was a pta president at hopewell high school and wasn't even in politics. i came in at the end of my freshman term and ran to be one of the caucus leaders. at the end of my sophomore term, i ran to be speaker. i don't think that i fit easily into kind of an establishment box. i expect results, i expect problems
>> harry reid and kay hagan have spent $6 million to prevent me from winning outright. that didn't work. it's as much of a failure as their failed policies. what they don't want to talk about is what i've done which is create 200,000 jobs, have a drop in unemployment unlike any other state in the nation and a rollback of regulations that are putting people back to work. that's what this campaign is going to be about this november. it's not a good place for kay hagan to be running....
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tillis takes on democratic incumbent kay hagan in november. she's considered vulnerable. let's talk about the importance of the tillis win. joining us, our chief political analyst gloria borger and dana bash, our chief congressional correspondent. gloria, how big of a win is this for the establishment republican as opposed to the tea party -- >> the establishment fights back. you've had the chamber of commerce and other establishment republican groups putting millions of dollars into this race because they're sick and tired of nominating candidates that are going to lose in general elections. this was a very important win for them. rand paul, as you know, was on the other side of this. he endorsed the guy who lost. and it took him about what, a nano second, to turn around and say, okay, now i'm -- >> because he went in there, rand paul, to endorse the tea party candidate. >> tea party was split though. >> if there would have been a runoff, would have been good news for kay hagan, the dimmic incumbent. >> she would have loved that because the republican fight would have go
tillis takes on democratic incumbent kay hagan in november. she's considered vulnerable. let's talk about the importance of the tillis win. joining us, our chief political analyst gloria borger and dana bash, our chief congressional correspondent. gloria, how big of a win is this for the establishment republican as opposed to the tea party -- >> the establishment fights back. you've had the chamber of commerce and other establishment republican groups putting millions of dollars into this...
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first-term democratic senator kay hagan facing a tough challenge against tom tillis. according to a new annual justice by "the washington post," the chances of her wim winning, a whopping 82%. 82%, if you're a republican at home, you're saying yahoo sitting at home. >> this is a proprietary model done by "the washington post." they look at the factors including polls and going across the country and saying the gop has an 80%-plus chance of taking the senate after november. >> and you say? >> i think it's silly to bank on anything like that being precise right. i think there is a congealing conventional wisdom now that the republicans have a good shot at taking the senate. but as we've learned over the last few cycles, they need the net six seats. doing that in any cycle is extremely difficult, regardless of how positive a political environment may seem. >> because you have to also keep the senate seats that you currently have. >> that's right. >> let's talk about north carolina and dissect that a little bit. so you have this run-off today, the primary. tom tillis look
first-term democratic senator kay hagan facing a tough challenge against tom tillis. according to a new annual justice by "the washington post," the chances of her wim winning, a whopping 82%. 82%, if you're a republican at home, you're saying yahoo sitting at home. >> this is a proprietary model done by "the washington post." they look at the factors including polls and going across the country and saying the gop has an 80%-plus chance of taking the senate after...
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if i'm kay hagan, i'm going to stone his record. >> ron, i'll have you answer more about kay hagan in a second, but i want to show you about the new poll that 61% of americans want congress to either keep or make changes to the affordable care act. they don't want to repeal it. only 38% are saying repeal that. the republicans are now focusing on benghazi. what is your reaction to this, and is this focus on benghazi, is it a sign that the gop is now running from obamacare? >> not at all, alex. the thing the democrats have done with benghazi, they want to make this about politics. we want to make this about getting to the truth, not only for the four families affected by the loss of loved ones here, but really what happened that night. number one, we still don't understand where the president of the united states was on the evening of benghazi. there was an eight-hour gap between where we knew what the president was doing, and there was nothing. number two, the republicans want to get to the truth of the matter and say, we knew that our outer perimeter was guarded by folks affiliated wi
if i'm kay hagan, i'm going to stone his record. >> ron, i'll have you answer more about kay hagan in a second, but i want to show you about the new poll that 61% of americans want congress to either keep or make changes to the affordable care act. they don't want to repeal it. only 38% are saying repeal that. the republicans are now focusing on benghazi. what is your reaction to this, and is this focus on benghazi, is it a sign that the gop is now running from obamacare? >> not at...
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latest polling we have in the head-to-head matchup, thom tillis and kay hagan, 43-43. it's going to be a very closely fought battle. how do you see the dynamics of the race playing out? >> this race just started today. thom tillis couldn't beat the tea party on his own until he became the tea party. all this conversation, as you started off with the establishment embracing thom tillis, if this is the republican establishment, i do believe the establishment has become the tea party. as we look at the weeks and months that are going to come, there is going to be a clear choice for north carolina between a united states senator is and kay hagan, who fighting for north carolina families, economic opportunity, bringing common sense to the senate, versus a state senate speaker, or excuse me, a state speaker, who has really ushered in an incredibly right-wing legislative platform in the state legislature. >> what i think is fascinating about the dynamics of this race is that usually the challenger basically is going to run against the democrats and barack obama and everything
latest polling we have in the head-to-head matchup, thom tillis and kay hagan, 43-43. it's going to be a very closely fought battle. how do you see the dynamics of the race playing out? >> this race just started today. thom tillis couldn't beat the tea party on his own until he became the tea party. all this conversation, as you started off with the establishment embracing thom tillis, if this is the republican establishment, i do believe the establishment has become the tea party. as we...
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and kay hagan is extremely vulnerable. and i think the gop in that state wants to be throwing everything at her right now. if rand paul had had his way, i think he would have increased the chances of her holding on. >> why did his endorsement fail? where it has succeeded in other places? >> i think he was backing an undisciplined candidate here, and that candidate was going up you against a conservative in thom tillis. that's the problem. rand -- part of the problem here is trying to purify your party when you're in the minority in terms of the senate and not controlling the white house. so the timing here is also off. i think the establishment is more focused on putting republicans in seats right now. and whereas you have another faction here led by the tea party who is trying to find purer and purer and purer individuals. >> it's interesting, the democrats, kay hagan in this case, but previously, they have tried to pick their own opponents. >> right. they wanted to knock out tillis. so they were -- democrats were running
and kay hagan is extremely vulnerable. and i think the gop in that state wants to be throwing everything at her right now. if rand paul had had his way, i think he would have increased the chances of her holding on. >> why did his endorsement fail? where it has succeeded in other places? >> i think he was backing an undisciplined candidate here, and that candidate was going up you against a conservative in thom tillis. that's the problem. rand -- part of the problem here is trying...
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kay hagan is vulnerable. >> almost as vulnerable. >> that's right. we had a poll in our paper last month. her approval numbers were 44/44. as many folks disapproved as those that approved. that is so key in the state that it drops off between presidential years and off years. a big prop for her. >> we can't understate this. the fate of the control of the senate really does hang in the balance. >> six seats. >> and kay hagan loses and you have a couple other states and all of a sudden obama thinks he has gridlock now, just wait. >> that's no surprise that you have the chamber of commerce and american crossroads spending millions of dollars because they know, they believe that they lost about a half dozen nate races that they did not need to lose. so now the establish strikes back here and they are pushing. they don't want that to happen. >> and this primary is almost like a proxy for the presidential race. >> yeah. >> you have establishment folks like mitt romney backing one candidate, rand paul backing another, mike huckabee backing another. now, we
kay hagan is vulnerable. >> almost as vulnerable. >> that's right. we had a poll in our paper last month. her approval numbers were 44/44. as many folks disapproved as those that approved. that is so key in the state that it drops off between presidential years and off years. a big prop for her. >> we can't understate this. the fate of the control of the senate really does hang in the balance. >> six seats. >> and kay hagan loses and you have a couple other states...
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senator kay hagan, the democratic incumbent is quite vulnerable. you had a republican primary that was kind of the spectrum of ideology within the party. tom tillis is the speaker of the house. the establishment candidate. he had one opponent that was backed by the tea party. senator rand paul went in the day before the primary to campaign for him. another opponent had support from evangelical base of the party. he was backed by mike huckabee, the former arkansas governor. this was a real test. the establishment went in on behalf of tom tillis. they propped him up with some money. gwen: not with just some money, a lot of money. >> the key was, could he get above 40%, and, therefore, avoid a runoff, which would have been costly, potentially debilitating, would have been harder to bring the party together. he got 46% of the vote. it was an impressive victory for him. as we looked around, in ohio there were a number of tea party challenges. in the state legislature. john boehner had a challenger. the incumbents and the establishment won across the boa
senator kay hagan, the democratic incumbent is quite vulnerable. you had a republican primary that was kind of the spectrum of ideology within the party. tom tillis is the speaker of the house. the establishment candidate. he had one opponent that was backed by the tea party. senator rand paul went in the day before the primary to campaign for him. another opponent had support from evangelical base of the party. he was backed by mike huckabee, the former arkansas governor. this was a real test....
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they were without -- >> so would you encourage kay hagan and others to show up with the -- a lot of these democrats now won't even show up with -- i mean, would you say to them, you ought to have courage, stand right there next to the president and say, i'm a proud obama democrat? >> well, i don't want to tell kay hagan or anyone else how to run for office, but i believe the president has given this country something that we've needed for decades. and that's a comprehensive system of health care coverage that now prevents insurance companies from denying care for pre-existing conditions, allows millions of young people to stay on their parents' policies. you know, these are good things. >> 8 million americans agree with the governor. now, i'm sure that you -- at this point now, 8 million people have signed up are finally in favor of insurance companies not being able to dupe or deny people. >> half of them lost insurance because of obamacare in the first place and had to find an alternative insurance. many of those folks are ending up on medicaid instead of private insurance which they do
they were without -- >> so would you encourage kay hagan and others to show up with the -- a lot of these democrats now won't even show up with -- i mean, would you say to them, you ought to have courage, stand right there next to the president and say, i'm a proud obama democrat? >> well, i don't want to tell kay hagan or anyone else how to run for office, but i believe the president has given this country something that we've needed for decades. and that's a comprehensive system...
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hagan is kay hagan. the vulnerable democrat in senate. the race is about who is best suited to beat hagan in november. that led to endorsements. tillis had romney and bush on his side. then rand paul was his celebrity guest. and lynn cheney told us, there is room under the tent for the gop tea party. >> you can't say just because someone is really conservative, they should not be part of the party. we have to be ideological. >> kirsten, thank you for being here. this is the right for the national party. if i were to rattle off the names o'donnell and murdoch, the republican party doesn't control the senate because of the past contests. >> you know what? i think we are looking forward to what now is just last week, the "washington post" said she had the worst week in washington, and she did. we're just excited. we don't get involved in primaries at the republican national committee. it's important that the grassroots voters make those decisions on their own. we've been holding kay hagan accountable this whole time, working on the ground, c
hagan is kay hagan. the vulnerable democrat in senate. the race is about who is best suited to beat hagan in november. that led to endorsements. tillis had romney and bush on his side. then rand paul was his celebrity guest. and lynn cheney told us, there is room under the tent for the gop tea party. >> you can't say just because someone is really conservative, they should not be part of the party. we have to be ideological. >> kirsten, thank you for being here. this is the right...
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he'll be battling kay hagan for the seat in november. tillis wasted no time in going after hagan, when talking to chuck todd here on msnbc this morning. >> take a look over what we've done over the last three years. much of what i've been doing is cleaning up kay hagan's mess in north carolina when she was sitting in the state senate. i think it's a contrast between her adding taxes, adding regulations, while we're cutting taxes and reducing regulations. very clear contrast for the voters in november. >> in north carolina race, considered one of the purest tests of the two-party strength come this fall. the tea party right now seems to be licking its wounds over the loss of this one. >>> the weekly feature we like to call "underreported." we ask you to vote on the stories. the stories you chose are male survivors of sexual assault in the military. second choice was the lack of federal funding for pediatric cancer. and finally, many of you suggested the hot fight over net neutrality. to vote, go to our website, cast your vote and tune in
he'll be battling kay hagan for the seat in november. tillis wasted no time in going after hagan, when talking to chuck todd here on msnbc this morning. >> take a look over what we've done over the last three years. much of what i've been doing is cleaning up kay hagan's mess in north carolina when she was sitting in the state senate. i think it's a contrast between her adding taxes, adding regulations, while we're cutting taxes and reducing regulations. very clear contrast for the voters...
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one key race in company saw tom tillis defeat several challengers to run against kay hagan. republicans think she is vulnerable because of her position on obamacare. they hope to win it to take back the majority. carl is live for us. tom tillis wants to knock off hagan. can he do it? >> no question about it. and the gop's chances are stronger because he got more than 40% to delay the distraction and beat his tea party rival 2-1. north carolina was one battle ground state the president carried in 2009. hagan backed obamacare, stimulus and climate issues. this is tillis last night. >> we need to be clear, though, this isn't the end of the prima primary. it is the beginning of the primary mission: which is to beat hagan and make reed a relevant american. >> primary mission on the national level and politics were in place. jeb bush backed tillis but rand paul backed the tea party canada and mike huckabee was behind the third person who failed. in ohio, boehner won with 69% of the vote but that is down from past margins. we will get a much better idea of where things stand betwee
one key race in company saw tom tillis defeat several challengers to run against kay hagan. republicans think she is vulnerable because of her position on obamacare. they hope to win it to take back the majority. carl is live for us. tom tillis wants to knock off hagan. can he do it? >> no question about it. and the gop's chances are stronger because he got more than 40% to delay the distraction and beat his tea party rival 2-1. north carolina was one battle ground state the president...
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they'll take on kay hagan in november. the republicans need a net gain of six seats this fall to tip the balance in their favor, just six seats. the republicans are further ahead than they were at this point in the 94 and 2010 wave elections. to help break this down, we start with jake sherman, thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> so there's a lot of talk in this north carolina senate gop primary about the tea party versus the establishment and the quote/unquote candidate thom tillis. the big question is whether or not he'll get the 40% he needs to avoid the runoff. i look at this guy and he's no moderate. he was the speaker of the house, north carolina, a house that went dramatically toy the right and face add voter backlash, nation voter rights, on a range of issues. so it seems to me to the extent that the establish hasn't has figured out to beat the tea party, it's essentially by adopting all of the tea parties' ideology. >> right. not only is the runoff or potential going to be costly money-wise but i
they'll take on kay hagan in november. the republicans need a net gain of six seats this fall to tip the balance in their favor, just six seats. the republicans are further ahead than they were at this point in the 94 and 2010 wave elections. to help break this down, we start with jake sherman, thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> so there's a lot of talk in this north carolina senate gop primary about the tea party versus the establishment and the quote/unquote...
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north carolina with senator kay hagan, the democrat, as we watches three republicans compete for her job. tom, greg banan, mark harris, tell us about them. >> north carolina is one of these states, it's where everyone thinks that the election goes through because we've got republicans need six seats to take back the senate. this one is where mitt romney won, they think that kay hagan is vulnerable and tom tillis is the person who establishment republicans really think has the best chance to beat hagan. the problem though is that he needs to get 40% tomorrow to be able to surpass the threshold for, to avoid a runoff. and if he doesn't do that then we're talking july 15th is when that runoff takes place and he's going to have to be fighting to see how conservative he is or the other candidates are before they can take on kay hagan. >> ifill: who are the other two. >> mark harris an evangelical pastor, not the top challenger though, craig branon is a doctor, libertarian, mentions the constitution in almost everything he talks about, rand paul is back him. he is the top challenger to til
north carolina with senator kay hagan, the democrat, as we watches three republicans compete for her job. tom, greg banan, mark harris, tell us about them. >> north carolina is one of these states, it's where everyone thinks that the election goes through because we've got republicans need six seats to take back the senate. this one is where mitt romney won, they think that kay hagan is vulnerable and tom tillis is the person who establishment republicans really think has the best chance...
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if thom tillis does get this with or without the runoff and evangelical base kay hagan and she has chals of her own, and shevoted for the affordable health care act, and that is not broadly popular there, and all of the democratic candidates were elected in the obama wave. and that lifted a number of the campaign ground game money being spent, and now they don't have the ground game money resources to get out to vote, and kay hagin is going to have a problem, and any republican is going to have a good chance to knock her out. it is going to be a base a election and not a swing voter election, and that tends to help the republicans in a midterm election like this. >> and let me get your quick take on the north carolina congressional race which you have "american idol" runner up clay aiken going against keith cisco, and tony morris, and no public polling in this, but what is going to happen? >> well, there is something that may happen, because people voted for clay aiken on the "american idol" show, and north carolina is a district that is a tough one for a democrat. >> but name recognitio
if thom tillis does get this with or without the runoff and evangelical base kay hagan and she has chals of her own, and shevoted for the affordable health care act, and that is not broadly popular there, and all of the democratic candidates were elected in the obama wave. and that lifted a number of the campaign ground game money being spent, and now they don't have the ground game money resources to get out to vote, and kay hagin is going to have a problem, and any republican is going to have...
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vulnerable democrat kay hagan could find out today who's her midterm matchup. will the gop establishment prevail or will a last-minute house call force a senate primary runoff? >>> plus, more heat and drought. more superstorms and floods. more damage and more money to fix it. those are the daunting headlines of a new climate report from the white house this morning. we'll talk to white house counselor john pedesta about what action the white house should be expected to do. >>> and ohio may brag about being home to the most presidents, but why hasn't there been one from there in nearly a century? a tdr 50 take on why the road to the white house never starts in ohio anymore, even if it finishes there. >>> good morning from washington. it's tuesday, may 6, 2014. take a listen. there it is. you know what the music means. there are people voting somewhere, because it's tuesday, but it's not just any tuesday. it is the start of a six-week gauntlet. half the country is going to be headed to the polls over the next six weeks and it all starts today in three states. so
vulnerable democrat kay hagan could find out today who's her midterm matchup. will the gop establishment prevail or will a last-minute house call force a senate primary runoff? >>> plus, more heat and drought. more superstorms and floods. more damage and more money to fix it. those are the daunting headlines of a new climate report from the white house this morning. we'll talk to white house counselor john pedesta about what action the white house should be expected to do. >>>...
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hagan and to make heirry reid irrelevant in america. >> senator kay hagan called a choice between two different records. she says thom tillis has spent his time in raleigh pushing an agenda that has rigged the system against middle class families. north carolina has has been one of the most radical states in the country. progressives moved to what's called a moral monday, ranging from a refusal of the medicaid expansion to education cuts to limits on unemployment benefits to new voting rules. i mean, they have had it all in north carolina. joining me tonight for the "rapid response" panel, e.j. dionne "washington post" and msnbc contributor. and william barber, north carolina naacp president and architect of the moral monday demonstrationing. great to have you both with us tonight. first of all, e.j., we'll start with you you why is the term "mainstream republican candidate" being thrown around right now when if you checked this guy's record he's as radical as anything you've got on the right? >> that's true. the charlotte observer had a great editorial on this yesterday where they sa
hagan and to make heirry reid irrelevant in america. >> senator kay hagan called a choice between two different records. she says thom tillis has spent his time in raleigh pushing an agenda that has rigged the system against middle class families. north carolina has has been one of the most radical states in the country. progressives moved to what's called a moral monday, ranging from a refusal of the medicaid expansion to education cuts to limits on unemployment benefits to new voting...
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we also heard from democratic senator kay hagan -- no surprises there. we also heard from and it genetic -- democratic senator kay hagan. she is under fire. here is what she said about the rollout. >> there are a number of things in thinking about i.t. procurement as well as delivery. one is, you don't connect the business owner and the i.t.. that connection does not generally occur and it is a problem i have experience in the private sector. -- have not experience in the private sector. >> not a lot of complaints about burwell herself. she was commanded for the work she's done in the past with the bill and linda gates foundation and the walmart foundation. several lawmakers knew her well as the former deputy chief of staff under clinton, or in her capacity as the white house budget director. by the way, she was confirmed unanimously for that position. it's likely she will have an easy time here. it is important to point out it is actually the finance committee that will vote on her nomination, so not the committee that held the hearing today. that is ye
we also heard from democratic senator kay hagan -- no surprises there. we also heard from and it genetic -- democratic senator kay hagan. she is under fire. here is what she said about the rollout. >> there are a number of things in thinking about i.t. procurement as well as delivery. one is, you don't connect the business owner and the i.t.. that connection does not generally occur and it is a problem i have experience in the private sector. -- have not experience in the private sector....
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he faces a tough showdown this fall with kay hagan who has easily won her primary. hagan has raised millions and has millions more from democratic leaning groups. >> steve schmitt, the empire strikes back because the establishment is not allowing these todd akin-type candidates to stumble in. the chamber, nra, cross roads, they're getting involved fast. >> the insumpence of pragmatism inside the republican parties when it comes to the races. we've talked about it before. just a remarkable history in the republican party. giving up six senate seats over two election cycles with deeply flawed candidates. i think that's what motivates people in washington, d.c. you get up every morning, if you're working to elect republican candidates, fearful that we're going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. >> we did if in 2010 and we did it in 2012. you go out, i don't care what the crowd is, you could be speaking to a majority tea party crowd and you could deliver the message, it's about -- do you want to change the world? you got to win elections. they get it and more an
he faces a tough showdown this fall with kay hagan who has easily won her primary. hagan has raised millions and has millions more from democratic leaning groups. >> steve schmitt, the empire strikes back because the establishment is not allowing these todd akin-type candidates to stumble in. the chamber, nra, cross roads, they're getting involved fast. >> the insumpence of pragmatism inside the republican parties when it comes to the races. we've talked about it before. just a...
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mentioned kay hagan. how vulnerable is she, and will her support of the affordable care act hurt her, even though health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius has have signedericans up? >> she is extremely vulnerable, and i think it has been trailing most of the democrats in the polls, and a key thing, as you know, republicans now have 45 55, and joeocrats' biden would break a 50/50 tied. they get halfway there by having basically easy picks in looking and southrginia dakota and montana, where three democrats are retiring, so they need to win three out of four seats that are really seen as low hanging fruit on the tree, and in addition with north carolina, we are talking alaska and another state. >> georgia, i think. >> no, it is not georgia, but louisiana, arkansas, excuse me. mark pryor in arkansas, and they need to nominate their best possible candidates and make no rhetorical mistakes, have all of their ducks in a row and get a little behind their backs, which looks like they can do. they are
mentioned kay hagan. how vulnerable is she, and will her support of the affordable care act hurt her, even though health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius has have signedericans up? >> she is extremely vulnerable, and i think it has been trailing most of the democrats in the polls, and a key thing, as you know, republicans now have 45 55, and joeocrats' biden would break a 50/50 tied. they get halfway there by having basically easy picks in looking and southrginia dakota and...
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kay hagan, north carolina has an enormous veteran population. i would expect to see particularly after they go home to their districts and their states this weekend to maybe see their position on that switch. but the democrats you see coming out saying shinseki needs to go are the candidates. i think on their side, i think there are political reasons for people saying both opinions for staying with the line and going with what the administration is saying, which is that we're going to stand by him right now. and going with the thing that may appeal to people. and for the candidates trying to get an upper hand one someone like mitch mcconnell, they say, we think he should go as well. opposing political reasons for doing that. >> and it's always easier when you're the candidate and you didn't vote for obamacare or you weren't in congress when some of this other stuff went down with the v.a. there's some confusion about the bill that was passed in the house that would allow shinseki given more power to fire people. who knew it was tough to get rid
kay hagan, north carolina has an enormous veteran population. i would expect to see particularly after they go home to their districts and their states this weekend to maybe see their position on that switch. but the democrats you see coming out saying shinseki needs to go are the candidates. i think on their side, i think there are political reasons for people saying both opinions for staying with the line and going with what the administration is saying, which is that we're going to stand by...
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senator kay hagan is heavily favored in tomorrow's north carolina primary, but come fall she's among the democrats more vulnerable incumbents. 2016 white house politics and super pacs are deeply involved. >> kay hagan promised to represent you, instead, she's working for harry reid and president obama to protect obamar obamacare. >> three have emerged backed. tom tils leads the polls. greg branden endorsed by rand paul, and social conservative ter pat harris backed by mike huckabee. gop candidate ohio governor has no opponent. >> if kasich were to lose the election, i think his as prigses will be over. if he wins, it's a good situation to be governor in an important state. >> if you have a boehner lasting longer than 23 years, seek medical attention, winteregg because boehner shouldn't catch his -- count his chickens before they hat. >>> they are all favored in their praryms and general election. >>> a striking indicator of changing sentiments among voters. a usa today finds that 47% registered voters lean toward supporting the republican candidates in their districts. the same poll
senator kay hagan is heavily favored in tomorrow's north carolina primary, but come fall she's among the democrats more vulnerable incumbents. 2016 white house politics and super pacs are deeply involved. >> kay hagan promised to represent you, instead, she's working for harry reid and president obama to protect obamar obamacare. >> three have emerged backed. tom tils leads the polls. greg branden endorsed by rand paul, and social conservative ter pat harris backed by mike huckabee....
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. >> it costs an awful lot of money to get a reasonable person to run against kay hagan. they got out the wacky people but they still have a very conservative speaker of the house who was immediately hit with 47% type take aware he said, let's divide and conquer people on assistance. let's say it's ok if you're handicapped but it's not ok if you are just poor. it is the divide and conquer tape. [applause] -- [laughter] burning things, burn the blue dress proclaims monica lewinsky. does this renew the scandal? does it hurt hillary clinton? notenator rand paul was able to get any traction with it. monica shows amazing maturity bodycomposure for some who went through what she went through. >> i hate to tell you this but she's 40 now. >> the scandal in the end did not stick to bill clinton. his iconic lead a hero in the global community. it did not hurt hillary clinton. nobody his game do more for favors she did not dispenses hillary clinton. >> the drip of all of this, reminding people about the lewinsky affair, this will get to hillary clinton. it will get her in the genera
. >> it costs an awful lot of money to get a reasonable person to run against kay hagan. they got out the wacky people but they still have a very conservative speaker of the house who was immediately hit with 47% type take aware he said, let's divide and conquer people on assistance. let's say it's ok if you're handicapped but it's not ok if you are just poor. it is the divide and conquer tape. [applause] -- [laughter] burning things, burn the blue dress proclaims monica lewinsky. does...
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the table tilted against kay hagan from getting reelectriced. the laws, the way people are being reinforced, is this going to tilt the table against kay hagan? >> i think what we're seeing right now, and hopefully, everyone is able to vote in north carolina. but what we saw in the primary, and this is a primary election, where there's a very small turnout. people were already confused about what was happening with this law. when it was being implemented, if they needed an id. some people were asking folks and telling them they needed an id for 2016. other precincts, they wouldn't ask and tell people about these regulations. it's creating this confusion and this hysteria in north carolina. and when you have millions and millions of dollars coming into the state, the last thing we need is more confusion and more layers on top of that. we're going to be on the ground making sure everyone can get to the polls. it is definitely a concern that we have. >> so you have boehner in the white shirt doing the white shirt job. his job is to get out the crazy
the table tilted against kay hagan from getting reelectriced. the laws, the way people are being reinforced, is this going to tilt the table against kay hagan? >> i think what we're seeing right now, and hopefully, everyone is able to vote in north carolina. but what we saw in the primary, and this is a primary election, where there's a very small turnout. people were already confused about what was happening with this law. when it was being implemented, if they needed an id. some people...